Posts by be wise

Anyhows, like you said, I think most of it doesn't add up or make enough sense for anyone with a bit of intelligence and honesty. There maybe some benefits that can come from the bible if you look at it objectionably rather than fanatically that is. I think the best way to live life is 'live and learn'. JW's throw the book at everyone but they don't let anyone live and develop in a normal way and they make it damn hard for anyone that wants to.

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How much of the problems are down to 'the system'?

by be wise in

jw's love to dis the system in their usual caring way.

personally i had little respect for 'the system' as a jw.

i was told it was evil and it was going to be destroyed because it is controlled by the devil.

be wise

Can totally relate to that, Robert (not talking the breast exam).

Anyhows, like you said, I think most of it doesn't add up or make enough sense for anyone with a bit of intelligence and honesty. There maybe some benefits that can come from the bible if you look at it objectionably rather than fanatically that is. I think the best way to live life is 'live and learn'. JW's throw the book at everyone but they don't let anyone live and develop in a normal way and they make it damn hard for anyone that wants to.

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How much of the problems are down to 'the system'?

by be wise in

jw's love to dis the system in their usual caring way.

personally i had little respect for 'the system' as a jw.

i was told it was evil and it was going to be destroyed because it is controlled by the devil.

be wise

JW's love to dis the system in their usual caring way. Personally I had little respect for 'the system' as a JW. I was told it was evil and it was going to be destroyed because it is controlled by the devil. - then they told me to respect it. (???)

It seems very small minded that the JW's can get billions of individuals, lump them all together and label them as a system. I think we have a lot of freedom to achieve what we want in life. If someone acts against us in some way that is not 'the system', that's the individual. It's crap in a lot of ways but it allows the amount of freedom we do have in everyday life and that isn't crap.

Can you imagine the real world being run by the Watchtower?

If the system isn't a whole entity as the Watchtower would have people believe - so what?

If that's the case how does the devil contol it?

I hope to be writing music for media purposes for a living. If someone said the devil controlled what I wrote if it was not to their liking and understanding of the world, I'd tell them they should go and get professional help from a psychiatrist.

From a JW's point of view, let's say the devil doesn't control things directly but it's traits in people's personality that are from the 'devil'.

All bible based religions would say because of Adam sinning due to falling for the devil's charm. In that case it means that as soon as 'the devil' got Adam to sin he has been able to sit on his 'arse' for all these years and do nothing but watch the domino sin affect pass on to their offspring over and over through genetics.

People who belive in God will agree that any organisation can't give you that or take it away from you either.

I think the world can be seen from so many different angles - to think we have all the answers would be the most arrogent way to live and the most detrimental too, much like the cult aspects of the JW religion.

It comes down to freedom we can take it for granted - piss it up against a wall - use it to some mutual advantage - it's our life, OUR life. If the bible is supposed to be a guide I think it should guide not finish you.

be wise

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Were You Ever Persecuted While Knocking on Doors?

by Funchback in

i recently posted a news article about how a jw said they get dogs sicced on them or they get urine thrown on them.

the worst thing that ever happened to me was when a chubby man with long blonde hair and glasses opened the door and said, "no!

there is no f--king god!

be wise

I can only imagine what I looked like 'doing the doors'.

Nowt queerer than folk!

It go's to show how tollerant most people are. TBH, I bet some people loved it - thinking up stuff they could say and laughing their gonads off and us think 'little do they know'

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Will the WTS Say that this News Article is from Satan?

by Funchback in

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at the recent district convention, it was hammered home time and again.. at the meetings, it is stated from the platform frequently.. the media is a tool of satan and we shouldn't believe everything we read about jws in the media.. however, in the wts' mind, only the negative media should not be believed.

but, if the media is positive, it will soon be printed in a wt magazine or read from the platform at a kingdom hall near you.. ----------------------------------------------.

http://www.nationnews.com/storyview.cfm?record=41162&section=lo.

be wise

The two very pleasant young men said some people even threaten to throw urine on them, or some set their dogs on them.

Oowee!

Funchback, I had a dog set on me too.

All that walking comes in handy sometimes.

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How more vague can the society get at the assemblies?

by be wise in

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his is a quote from the give god glory district convention showing how they avoid their own questions and provide the usual vague answers that no jw understands.

we don't want to be personally refuting these untruths unless jehovah's organisation assigned us to do that, publicly.

now, are we talking people in our ministry or elsewhere about points about what they have heard, read?

be wise

Like watching a magician float a lady in mid air, you wonder what holds it all up.

I don't think it could be put any better!

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Anyone heard of a 'JW complex' in London?

by be wise in

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i've heard there is or going to be a complex for jw's in london with a number of building for co's and the like and a few kh's i think.

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be wise

Cheers caspian,

I heard some of my JW family taking pride in the fact. Then they started talking that they would need it ssen as they wouldn't qualify for pensions etc, as they get older.

I wonder what happens to those who leave?

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Anyone heard of a 'JW complex' in London?

by be wise in

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i've heard there is or going to be a complex for jw's in london with a number of building for co's and the like and a few kh's i think.

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be wise

I've heard there is or going to be a complex for JW's in London with a number of building for CO's and the like and a few KH's I think.

Does anyone know anything more about this?